如何描述``单元格应该在VoiceOver中读取为哪一行/列?

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英文:

How do I describe what row/column a <td> cell should read out as with VoiceOver?

问题

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英文:

I'm trying to make an Excel-style table with the HTML &lt;table&gt; element and and make it accessible to screen readers. I have a decorative row to add column letters ("A", "B", "C", etc) and another to add row numbers ("1", "2", "3", etc), and I'd like the screen reader to not count these as 'rows'/'columns' when telling the user which row/cell they're on. I'm able to hide these decorative elements from the screen reader with aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot;, but they're still getting included in column/row counts.

Here's an example table that demonstrates the issue:

<!-- begin snippet: js hide: false console: true babel: false -->

<!-- language: lang-html -->

&lt;table aria-colcount=&quot;2&quot; aria-rowcount=&quot;2&quot;&gt;
    &lt;thead&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt;
            &lt;th aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot;&gt;#&lt;/th&gt;
            &lt;th aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; scope=&quot;col&quot; aria-colindex=&quot;1&quot;&gt;A&lt;/th&gt;
            &lt;th aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; scope=&quot;col&quot; aria-colindex=&quot;2&quot;&gt;B&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr&gt;
            &lt;th aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&lt;/th&gt;
            &lt;th scope=&quot;col&quot; aria-colindex=&quot;1&quot;&gt;First&lt;/th&gt;
            &lt;th scope=&quot;col&quot; aria-colindex=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Second&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;/thead&gt;
    &lt;tbody&gt;
        &lt;tr aria-rowindex=&quot;1&quot;&gt;
            &lt;th scope=&quot;row&quot; aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot;&gt;1&lt;/th&gt;
            &lt;td aria-colindex=&quot;1&quot;&gt;Cell A1&lt;/td&gt;
            &lt;td aria-colindex=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Cell B1&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
        &lt;tr aria-rowindex=&quot;2&quot;&gt;
            &lt;th scope=&quot;row&quot; aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot;&gt;2&lt;/th&gt;
            &lt;td aria-colindex=&quot;1&quot;&gt;Cell A2&lt;/td&gt;
            &lt;td aria-colindex=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Cell B2&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;/tbody&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;

<!-- end snippet -->

In the example above, if I highlight cell A1 and move my VoiceOver cursor to cell A2, VoiceOver reads out "Row 4 of 4, Cell A2" instead of what I'd like it to read, "Row 2 of 2, Cell A2". Similarly, if I move the VoiceOver cursor from Cell A2 to Cell B2, VoiceOver reads "Second, Cell B2, Column 3 of 3" instead of what I'd like it to read, "Second, Cell B2, Column 2 of 2". How do I force VoiceOver to read out from the aria-*index attributes instead of indexing based on the table?

答案1

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Screen reader users know that the column and row headers (&lt;th scope="col"> or &lt;th scope="row">) are included in the overall cell count for a table. If you try to force them not to be included, it could cause more confusion that you think you're trying to fix.

屏幕阅读器用户知道列和行标题(&lt;th scope="col"> 或 &lt;th scope="row">)包含在表格的总单元格计数中。如果您试图强制排除它们,可能会引发比您认为的更多混淆。

The only way to not include them is to not have them in the same table. You could create two tables and have the column headers in one table and then the data values in a separate table and then associate the column headers to the cells using headers and id.

唯一的方法是不将它们包含在同一表格中。您可以创建两个表格,一个表格中包含列标题,另一个表格中包含数据值,然后使用 headersid 将列标题与单元格关联起来。

But this will cause 2 tables to be read. If you want to prevent the first/headers table from being read as a table, you could try removing the semantics of the headers table by specifying <table role=&quot;presentation&quot;>, but on some screen reader + browser combinations, it prevents the headers table from being used.

但这将导致读取2个表格。如果要防止第一个/标题表格被读取为表格,您可以尝试通过指定 <table role=&quot;presentation&quot;> 来删除标题表格的语义,但在某些屏幕阅读器 + 浏览器组合中,这会阻止使用标题表格。

Also, the headers attribute doesn't seem to be honored on Chrome but is on Firefox, so this solution, although valid HTML, does not work everywhere.

此外,Chrome 上似乎不支持 headers 属性,但 Firefox 上支持,因此这个解决方案,尽管是有效的 HTML,但并不适用于所有情况。

&lt;table&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;th scope=&quot;col&quot; id=&quot;col1&quot;&gt;A&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th scope=&quot;col&quot; id=&quot;col2&quot;&gt;B&lt;/th&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;table&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col1&#39;&gt;cell a1&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col2&#39;&gt;cell b1&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col1&#39;&gt;cell a2&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col2&#39;&gt;cell b2&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;

It's a lot of work to try to "fix" a problem that isn't a problem to screen reader users.

试图“修复”对屏幕阅读器用户而言并不是问题的问题需要大量工作。

英文:

Screen reader users know that the column and row headers (&lt;th scope="col"> or &lt;th scope="row">) are included in the overall cell count for a table. If you try to force them not to be included, it could cause more confusion that you think you're trying to fix.

The only way to not include them is to not have them in the same table. You could create two tables and have the column headers in one table and then the data values in a separate table and then associate the column headers to the cells using headers and id.

But this will cause 2 tables to be read. If you want to prevent the first/headers table from being read as a table, you could try removing the semantics of the headers table by specifying &lt;table role=&quot;presentation&quot;&gt;, but on some screen reader + browser combinations, it prevents the headers table from being used.

Also, the headers attribute doesn't seem to be honored on Chrome but is on Firefox, so this solution, although valid HTML, does not work everywhere.

&lt;table&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;th scope=&quot;col&quot; id=&quot;col1&quot;&gt;A&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th scope=&quot;col&quot; id=&quot;col2&quot;&gt;B&lt;/th&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;table&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col1&#39;&gt;cell a1&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col2&#39;&gt;cell b1&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col1&#39;&gt;cell a2&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td headers=&#39;col2&#39;&gt;cell b2&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;

It's a lot of work to try to "fix" a problem that isn't a problem to screen reader users.

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